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Vinpire
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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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GBA-Renamer is a tool for renaming COMMERCIAL roms, that might explain the fact that it's missing none-commercial roms! It has never and will never rename PD roms. Like Titney said, if you want all of that, use GoodGBA.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | do you really have 400+ gba carts? Cause if not, i'm sure Nintendo would like to know why you have all those roms... |
Which sort of goes along with the suggestion of creating another .dat file with the latest known-working-on-hardware version of each (PD) game. |
No... it doesn't. It suggests that he is pirating commercial GBA roms en mass, PD hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this thread so far until you chimed in with your two cents. Which, by the way, seem to have wandered majorly off topic. What once started as a discussion about why our software won't rename every rom under the sun, has now deviated into a discussion about BT and NFOrce. To get back on track a little...
Clrmame and Romcenter dat formats are well documented and have been for as long as i can remember. GoodGBA and GBA-Renamer are both closed dat formats, they will only rename what the updaters/authors tell them to. In the case of GBA-Renamer that means it won't rename all of your PD and alternate roms and it never will. |
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zidane15601
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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As per your warning, does that include PD roms?
Oh, and for those 400+ Roms, only about 70 are commercial, and I have bought them at one time or another, but either sold it, or it got destroyed.
So sorry for being new to the gba emu scene, as I've never needed the use of a renamer... I just got a flash cart, and wanted to have a detailed list of the games I have...
And one last question, as there are only 1948 games out there, and lets say there are 4 diff versions of each (diff "scene" releases) that would only be 7792 entries in the GBARenamer database... would it really be that hard to make a listing for all of them?
If anyone has any info on how to make a DAT file for GBARenamer, let me know, I'll create a DAT for all releases... |
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Vinpire
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Read the post properly, the quote from the rules i posted refers to "copyrighted commercial roms", that answers your question about PD roms.
| Quote: | | It's seeing the other 400+ I have... |
If GBA-Renamer sees them, they are commercial, meaning you have 400+ pirated commercially copyrighted roms, not just 70 of them.
As for your last question, i think you've gotten your definitions twisted somewhere. There are 1948 commercial rom dumps listed at the moment, these are not individual games, these are different regional dumps of specific games. Lets use Super Mario Advance as an example. There are 3 versions of that game in the list at the moment, one from Japan, one from the USA and another from Europe. So i'm already doing exactly what you are suggesting and listing each regional scene release of a game.
And since you so evidently love to ignore what i'm saying and making me repeat myself, i'll do it once more...
| Quote: | | GoodGBA and GBA-Renamer are both closed dat formats, they will only rename what the updaters/authors tell them to. In the case of GBA-Renamer that means it won't rename all of your PD and alternate roms and it never will. |
That essentially means that you can't alter the dat file for GBA-Renamer yourself, not that you would need to, because the dat file already covers all commercial scene releases. |
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tepples
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Solution: Bug pdroms.de into making a Romcenter dat. Can we leave it at that?
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Vinpire
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Again i'm so confused as to what that has to do with the original thread... |
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zidane15601
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Vinpire wrote: |
That essentially means that you can't alter the dat file for GBA-Renamer yourself, not that you would need to, because the dat file already covers all commercial scene releases. |
Wow... you really are just a walking flame target now...
| Quote: | | dat file already covers all commercial scene releases |
Ummmm, no, it doesn't... if it did, I wouldn't have 60+ unkown roms... therefore, it DOES NOT cover all commercial scene releases... it only covers the one's the creaters of the DAT files have/had... |
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tepples
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| zidane15601 wrote: | | Vinpire wrote: | | dat file already covers all commercial scene releases |
Ummmm, no, it doesn't... if it did, I wouldn't have 60+ unkown roms... therefore, it DOES NOT cover all commercial scene releases |
The "scene release" is usually one with an intro. The [!] ROMs are verified good dumps, not scene releases. If you want a Romcenter dat that picks up [!] dumps, try either the numbered or unnumbered version available here.
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Vinpire
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| zidane15601 wrote: | | Vinpire wrote: | | dat file already covers all commercial scene releases |
Ummmm, no, it doesn't... if it did, I wouldn't have 60+ unkown roms... therefore, it DOES NOT cover all commercial scene releases... it only covers the one's the creaters of the DAT files have/had... |
Those roms, for the 80 BILLIONTH TIME, WERE NOT SCENE RELEASED! They are simply independant redumps of the carts which were not released via the usual scene methods. Trust me, i've been doing this long enough to know that we cover every valid commercial scene release so it might be a smart idea to stop saying we don't before you make yourself look any more retarded.
Scene Release - Nyan_Nyan_Nyanko_no_Nyan_Collection_JPN_GBA-Caravan
NOT A SCENE RELEASE - Spider-Man - Mysterio's Menace (U) [a1].gba
You seem to have some sort of mistaken idea as to what a scene release is, why don't you google it or read the links the Titney so kindly posted for you. Then maybe you'll realise that you don't have 60 missing scene releases, you actually have 60 random roms from a totally different set. |
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Raffles
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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OK - let me attempt to simplify this a little...
GBA-Renamer did indeed (a long time ago) include various versions of the same ROM (eg: 0116 - Caesar's Palace Advance - Millennium Gold Edition (U)(Intro Hack)(Mode7), 0116 - Caesar's Palace Advance - Millennium Gold Edition (U)(Lame) and 0116 - Caesar's Palace Advance - Millennium Gold Edition (U)).
Trouble is, lots of 'groups' decide to change the ROMs headers or add intros etc. and this changes the CRC of the ROM. GBA-Renamer (and most other renamers) use this CRC to identify the ROM.
To list ALL versions of one commercial ROM would mean a massive DAT file - and we'd all have 'back-ups' of the same ROM over and over (what's the point of having 20 'back-ups' of the same ROM?).
So, Vinpire uses the PH release list to keep GBA-Renamers list as up-to-date as possible. If it's not listed on PH - then it won't be in the GBA-Renamer DAT (correct me if I am wrong here Vinpire).
To summize, PH now only lists 1 version of each ROM (except for certain 'special' ones that get the occassional double entry - usually size-stripped ones). This is the one that GBA-Renamer uses.
It has even been known for PH to remove 'bad or over-dumped' ROMs to replace them with 'better' versions.
The versions of the ROMs you have as unknown are just that - unknown to GBA-Renamer - because it knows a different version.
Hope all that helps 
cheers
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I think that sums it up ....
Topic Locked... back on topic people. |
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