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Raffles
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 Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: Numbers gone astray? |
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Just noticed that the 'ph' release list doesn't include Mario Thingy Edition. Any reason for this as the GBA-Renamer DAT does have it in 
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PS - This one : 1866 - Famicom Mini - Super Mario Bros. - Hot Mario Campaign Version (J)(Trashman).zip |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| In the policy, whoever wrote: | | 5. Releases which include trainers or intros will be included on the release list. The pocketheaven release list contains the first scene release of each rom. We fully support and encourage scene groups to demonstrate their skills by including intros and trainers. |
<Just because you are obsessed with hating Disney, doesn't mean you need to post about it every week or so. I for one like them and don't see how the encouragement of intro inclusion has anything remotely to do with Disney having "ammo" against ph - Vin>
And I'm confused about how to interpret 2. What does the policy have to say about a commercial game released later as PD by its author (such as Elite for NES) or a PD game that goes commercial (such as what is being proposed on gbadev.org)?
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Titney
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: |
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And what exactly does the fcuk off and die intro have to do with PH? We don't host roms.
You think Disney is gonna try to sue over a checksum that happens to match a disney game where someone hacked in the word "fcuk"?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| Titney wrote: | | And what exactly does [a ROM's] intro have to do with PH? We don't host roms. |
Neither did the original Napster, and neither did BitTorrent trackers. There's a slim chance that a big company might allege that PH contributes to infringement. But whatever...
I'm more interested in the second point, about games that are PD at one point in their existence and commercial at another.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: |
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So exactly what is the difference between this rom, a licensed game given away in limited numbers to winners of a nintendo contest... and this one...
1184 - Jurassic Park Institute Tour (J)(Rising Sun)
| Code: | | Watch out guys! This is prolly THE most rare GBA game you could |
| ever find. You could win this game at VERY limited stocks only |
| in a promotional event at Wendy's Burgers in Japan. |
a licensed game given away in limited numbers to winners of a contest at wendy's?
This is actually version 1.0 of the original famicom mini smb... it includes no save type and is playable on emulators... for all those who care. I included this rom in the dat because i was not aware that it would be removed from pocketheaven.
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Titney
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:32 am Post subject: |
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After the competition it was also sold as far as I recall.
I just love it when people start to argue about games YEARS AFTER THEY WERE ADDED >_<
We did the research at the time...
If you look at the list
http://releases.pocketheaven.com/?system=gba§ion=release&rel=1184
it includes a link to a japanese page that confirms the game was for sale.
| Quote: | The price is 3800 yen, and software enough profitable feeling that is attached to the extra of dinosaur's model.
The game screen was open to the public all day, and children were sending a hot glance in the hall.
It is inevitable that popularity concentrates on the work of course by limited production now since sold by the hall limitation. |
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2003/07/20/103,1058683455,14063,0,0.html
So, it was sold at a publicly open event, but in limited quantities.
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Well despite this being a perfectly fine cart and dump, better than the "original" dump in the respects that you can actually play this one, it doesn't matter cause it's place in the list has got nothing to do with that. PH aren't going to list this, but i got a terrible thing to tell you guys now... i can't remove it from the dat. It's very much a "once it's in, it's not able to come out" situation, thats why, despite your whining and bitching i always delayed the updates till after i knew the roms were being listed. I did this last update at 2am, i didn't check ph to see if the rom was listed, so your stuck with it. Terrible shame i know. Sorry  |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Numbers gone astray? |
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| Raffles wrote: | Just noticed that the 'ph' release list doesn't include Mario Thingy Edition. Any reason for this as the GBA-Renamer DAT does have it in
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PS - This one : 1866 - Famicom Mini - Super Mario Bros. - Hot Mario Campaign Version (J)(Trashman).zip |
Gbarenamer follows GBATemp numbering. Which usually reverts back to Pocketheaven Number. When I do not include releases or move the numbers around. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Well - seems I opened one big can of worms here  (btw - what has Disney got to do with this thread?).
Vince - I'm not saying you shouldn't have put it in - as a lot of 'other' dats are including it. How about a re-number to XXXX (like the old beta roms)? Just a thought.
Ross - I actually agree with Vince on this one (I think). I think it should really be in as it is still a rom that isn't beta or PD. But, if you think not... 
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| Vinpire wrote: | | ...despite your whining and bitching... |
I presume you don't mean me . |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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This isn't just a random "opinion" on Ross's part (or mine) to agree or disagree with.
We have a policy that's quite clear, and we try to follow it as stringently as we can.
And the policy isn't "anything that isn't beta or pd goes". I already linked to it.
This case isn't even borderline. The "hot mario" rom comes from a cart that could only be won in a competition. Even the NFO with the release states this clearly. And we only include roms from carts that are sold commercially.
Any more questions? 
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No - no more questions or opinions. Oh - and please be careful that you don't hurt yourself when you climb down from your high horse  . |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Numbers gone astray? |
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| rOss wrote: | | Gbarenamer follows GBATemp numbering. Which usually reverts back to Pocketheaven Number. When I do not include releases or move the numbers around. |
Thats the biggest load of bullshit i've ever heard, i have followed the ph list as closely as i can over the last 2 years, how could i follow a channel that doesn't use numbers, or a site that's been offline for the last week or more? Makes a lotta sense doesn't it. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Numbers gone astray? |
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| Vinpire wrote: | | rOss wrote: | | Gbarenamer follows GBATemp numbering. Which usually reverts back to Pocketheaven Number. When I do not include releases or move the numbers around. |
Thats the biggest load of bullshit i've ever heard, i have followed the ph list as closely as i can over the last 2 years, how could i follow a channel that doesn't use numbers, or a site that's been offline for the last week or more? Makes a lotta sense doesn't it. |
well lets see .. gbatemp had that numbering style and you added it because everyone pressures you to update gbarenamer. why else would you not of waited. if you follow ph closely .. gbarenamer would not be updated before the website. unless you have ESP.
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